tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post4877224788397301615..comments2024-03-06T04:18:31.617-05:00Comments on The Jumping Percheron: PSA: The Training Wheels Have to Come Off at Some PointThe Jumping Percheronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07588158783906726626noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-38526363679973023232018-02-24T23:47:08.378-05:002018-02-24T23:47:08.378-05:00Interesting that it is popping up else where too!Interesting that it is popping up else where too!The Jumping Percheronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07588158783906726626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-6905929093688901622018-02-22T21:24:23.775-05:002018-02-22T21:24:23.775-05:00I am amazed at how afraid people of their horses t...I am amazed at how afraid people of their horses too. It was actually brought up in a recent thread on a popular message board. People are dependent on their trainer for everything. <br /><br />https://fearlessriderreturns.blogspot.com/rebelshopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17377957069216805979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-44314286910406762262018-02-20T09:02:38.186-05:002018-02-20T09:02:38.186-05:00YES. I agree so much and understand where you'...YES. I agree so much and understand where you're coming from with this. I, too, have had friends over the years who are afraid to do anything without their mentor/trainer and have been so held back by it. Fortunately, a lot of them have broken free of the bonds by now, several getting out of horses altogether. I can understand knowingly wanting the relationship, but I've definitely seen a lot of mentors/trainers take advantage of their client and it makes me sad for the client.<br /><br />"A trainer is an absolute luxury to me, not a necessity." I agree so much with this - but that's likely because I live in an area where quality horse professionals in the disciplines I'm interested in are NOT common. I'm self-taught and self-motivated and utilize trainers when I can. I definitely wish I could access that knowledge-base more often, but if I waited for it alone, I'd never do anything. Ever. I'm a big believer that if you want something, go freaking get it!Liz Stouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18267806576736655184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-22937324472604964272018-02-19T12:19:29.685-05:002018-02-19T12:19:29.685-05:00That is not the people I am referencing, those tha...That is not the people I am referencing, those that knowingly feel the way you do. See reply below.The Jumping Percheronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07588158783906726626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-81808190157432561612018-02-19T12:18:27.587-05:002018-02-19T12:18:27.587-05:00I figured I should put my flame suit on for this o...I figured I should put my flame suit on for this one. <br /><br />It's not a problem. I don't care what other people do. I just see some people where it is actually holding them back from doing some things they want to accomplish. Again, does it affect me? No, what do I care if other people are holding themselves back? However, some of these individuals are my friends and I would LOVE to see them realize they CAN do things that they think are a bit out of reach, they just need the boost of self confidence ad to maybe give it a try instead of limiting themselves. <br /> All I was trying to provoke is some thought about self-confidence. It makes me sad to see people limit themselves (for whatever reason). Also, those that I do personally know that do these things, wrecks and insurance limitations are not their issue. So I actually DO know. Not everyone out at shows has had a nasty fall that is causing their lack of self confidence. I am perfectly aware that some have had that unfortunate experience, but not everyone. Your last sentence is part of the reason I wrote this as well, some of these people are NOT having fun with their ponies. They're terrified of them when they get on yet feel pressured into doing it and, sure it's not my problem or place to care or say something, but it does make me sad for them that they are not enjoying a hobby that as a whole, they love. I see the negative self talk and massive self doubt creep in when they don't deserve to feel like that. The Jumping Percheronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07588158783906726626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-79518664831423864592018-02-19T10:08:30.982-05:002018-02-19T10:08:30.982-05:00Whoa, why so judgmental? You don't know that o...Whoa, why so judgmental? You don't know that other girl's story... maybe she had a bad fall last time she was at a show and her trainer really helps her confidence? And there are some barns where their insurance states that boarders are not allowed to jump without the trainer present... you just don't know the situation. There are definitely trainers who keep their students close, but there are plenty of students who want exactly that kind of relationship... why is that a problem? There are also plenty who encourage their students to explore on their own, and that's great for them if that's the situation they prefer. So some people do things differently than you, so what? If it works for them, that's what's important. Do what works for you, and let others do what works for them. Hopefully at the end of the day you will both be having fun with your ponies, which is why we're all here. jenjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737679332792618499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-27613104038862922092018-02-18T19:21:07.373-05:002018-02-18T19:21:07.373-05:00i used to be real weird about doing stuff without ...i used to be real weird about doing stuff without a trainer. then when i started eventing... i realized at least up through novice i'd probably live if i had to run around without one!Purple Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179696153116063779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-26884377738224345522018-02-18T18:23:31.718-05:002018-02-18T18:23:31.718-05:00While I can understand where you are coming from, ...While I can understand where you are coming from, and you make some good points here, I have to disagree. I enjoy being a program and taking regular lessons — it is certainly a luxury that I am grateful for! As an adult amateur, I am keenly aware of the many things I don’t know, and just how carefully curated my confidence is. I am learning more and gaining confidence every ride, but I also want to be careful to preserve those things. I want to reinforce the correct skills I’m leaning, which I choose to do through lessons. For those reasons, i typically do not jump outside of lessons, and I’m not <br />ashamed of that. <br /><br />I also would not go into the show ring without my trainer present. We are a team — I’ve asked her to coach me at the show, and to do that she needs to be there. At the ring. While she will not be able to provide a magic fix in the moment, she may have some ideas to help us get through the day more successfully or see issues that we need to practice at home. She can’t do that if I go into the show rind without her. Tracy - The Printable Ponyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990038444473790555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-23945557751441064682018-02-18T10:25:19.704-05:002018-02-18T10:25:19.704-05:00Trainers corner their market to keep their livelih...Trainers corner their market to keep their livelihoods going. Why would they allow you to use their jumps when they can corner you into jumping only when they're present in case you get hurt or damage their equipment. Actually, in that case, why not utilize them in a lesson since you're both there? I think people forget that saying no is an option, and then they get lost in the in-over-my-head feeling.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06460442949320451254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-45795273421329629102018-02-17T16:53:58.826-05:002018-02-17T16:53:58.826-05:00I grew up taking lessons because my family couldn&...I grew up taking lessons because my family couldn't afford to have a horse but I was never scared to ride on my own or jump on my own. I try not to jump without at least having someone around though in case I did fall. If I'm alone I'll usually text someone and tell them I'm jumping and that I'll text them again in half an hour.AnEnglishRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09999878298171714712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-78471748686331557782018-02-17T13:47:06.950-05:002018-02-17T13:47:06.950-05:00Yes!Yes!arteriolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257564748066704707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1892401514337394004.post-57333488841701239072018-02-17T13:17:41.615-05:002018-02-17T13:17:41.615-05:00I think this is a fair post. I've never had th...I think this is a fair post. I've never had that codependent relationship with a trainer, mostly because I grew up too poor to take lessons so I worked to ride and was grateful for whatever I got to sit on, much less show. I didn't get my first horse until I was 32 and the only place I really relied on my trainer was for day to day horsemanship stuff. But eventually, like you said, the training wheels come off and by going off on my own and developing autonomy I had to trust myself and utilize my knowledge base. I think never boarding my horse anywhere (I always either rented a barn with someone or co-oped) has also made me quite independent. That said, I like having someone to coach me or lean on at times, and I definitely want someone to help coax me out of said comfort zone when needed. Niamhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12445287419135378606noreply@blogger.com